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âîò æå V-é, çëîäåé


à åù¸ òàêîå ïîñëå ñåáÿ îñòàâèë:


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ÀÐÑÀÐÅÔ (ARSARETH)

Òðåòüÿ êíèãà Åçäðû

Ãëàâà 13

39 À ÷òî òû âèäåë, ÷òî Îí ñîáèðàë ê ñåáå äðóãîå, ìèðíîå îáùåñòâî:
40 ýòî äåñÿòü êîëåí, êîòîðûå îòâåäåíû áûëè ïëåííûìè èç çåìëè ñâîåé âî äíè öàðÿ Îñèè, êîòîðîãî îòâåë â ïëåí Ñàëìàíàññàð, öàðü Àññèðèéñêèé, è ïåðåâåë èõ çà ðåêó, è ïåðåâåäåíû áûëè â çåìëþ èíóþ.
41 Îíè æå ïîëîæèëè â ñîâåòå ñâîåì, ÷òîáû îñòàâèòü ìíîæåñòâî ÿçû÷íèêîâ è îòïðàâèòüñÿ â äàëüíþþ ñòðàíó, ãäå íèêîãäà íå îáèòàë ðîä ÷åëîâå÷åñêèé,
42 ÷òîáû òàì ñîáëþäàòü çàêîíû ñâîè, êîòîðûõ îíè íå ñîáëþäàëè â ñòðàíå ñâîåé.
43 Òåñíûìè âõîäàìè ïîäîøëè îíè ê ðåêå Åâôðàòó;
44 èáî Âñåâûøíèé ñîòâîðèë òîãäà äëÿ íèõ ÷óäåñà è îñòàíîâèë æèëû ðåêè, äîêîëå îíè ïðîõîäèëè;
45 èáî ÷åðåç ýòó ñòðàíó øëè îíè äîëãî, ïîëòîðà ãîäà; ýòà ñòðàíà íàçûâàåòñÿ Àðñàðåô.
46 Òàì æèëè îíè äî ïîñëåäíåãî âðåìåíè. È íûíå, êîãäà îíè íà÷íóò ïðèõîäèòü,
47 Âñåâûøíèé ñíîâà îñòàíîâèò æèëû ðåêè, ÷òîáû îíè ìîãëè ïðîéòè; ïîýòîìó òû âèäåë ìíîæåñòâî ìèðíîå.


King James Bible

IV Ezra, 13-45

For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.


Îðòåëèé:





ARSARETH
Àíãëèéñêèé ïåðåâîä [M. van den Broecke]:
"Arsareth. Here the ten tribes retreated, and changed from the Tartar or Tartar area to Scythia. Since then they are called Gauths or Gauthens, confirming Gods highest glory, and here lies the splendid Kingdom of Cathai."

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ÀÐÃÎÍ (ARGON):





Àíãëèéñêèé ïåðåâîä [M. van den Broecke]:

"Argon. Once there was in Asia a Christian Kingdom, known to Prester Iohn, and D. Thomas founded it [this city] in this place, so that it was in contact with the Church of Rome, and was subject to Rome through Prester Iohn of Africa. Before it was defeated by the Goths, it was known as Crive Romone".


Ìàðêî Ïîëî
"Êíèãà î ðàçíîîáðàçèè ìèðà"

ÃËÀÂÀ LXXIV

Çäåñü îïèñûâàåòñÿ áîëüøàÿ îáëàñòü Ñåíäóê

"Ñåíäóê - îáëàñòü íà âîñòîê; ìíîãî òàì ãîðîäîâ è çàìêîâ; ïðèíàäëåæèò îíà âåëèêîìó õàíó, ïîòîìó ÷òî ïîòîìêè ïîïà Èâàíà - åãî ïîääàííûå. Ãëàâíûé ãîðîä íàçûâàåòñÿ Òåíäóê. Öàðü çäåñü èç ðîäó ïîïà Èâàíà, è ñàì îí ïîï Èâàí, à çîâåòñÿ Ãåîðãèåì; ñòðàíîþ ïðàâèò îò èìåíè âåëèêîãî õàíà, íî íå âñåþ, ÷òî áûëà ó ïîïà Èâàíà, à òîëüêî îäíîþ ÷àñòüþ. Âåëèêèå õàíû, ñêàæó âàì, âñåãäà âûäàâàëè ñâîèõ äî÷åðåé è ðîäñòâåííèö çà öàðåé èç ðîäà ïîïà Èâàíà. Âîäÿòñÿ òóò êàìíè, èç êîòîðûõ ëàçóðü äîáûâàåòñÿ; ìíîãî èõ òóò, è îíè îòëè÷íûå. Åñòü òóò ïðåêðàñíîå ñóêíî èç âåðáëþæüåé øåðñòè. Íàðîä çàíèìàåòñÿ ñêîòîâîäñòâîì è çåìëåäåëèåì; êîå-êòî òîðãóåò è ðåìåñëàìè çàíèìàåòñÿ. Òóò, êàê ÿ óæå ãîâîðèë, âëàñòâóþò õðèñòèàíå, íî è èäîëîïîêëîííèêîâ äîâîëüíî, åñòü è ìóñóëüìàíå.

Åñòü çäåñü íàðîä, íàçûâàåòñÿ «àðãîí», ÷òî ïî-ôðàíöóçñêè çíà÷èò Guasmul; ïðîèñõîäèò îí îò äâóõ ðîäîâ, îò ðîäà àðãîí òåíäóê è îò òåõ òåíäóêîâ, ÷òî Ìóõàììåäó ìîëÿòñÿ, èç ñåáÿ êðàñèâåå äðóãèõ æèòåëåé è ïîóìíåå, òîðãîâëåþ çàíèìàåòñÿ ïîáîëüøå. Çäåñü ãëàâíûì îáðàçîì ïðåáûâàë ïîï Èâàí, êîãäà âëàñòâîâàë íàä òàòàðàìè è âëàäåë ýòèìè îáëàñòÿìè è ñîñåäíèìè öàðñòâàìè; ïîòîìêè åãî æèëè òóò æå è òîò Æîð, êîãî ÿ óæå íàçûâàë; è îí èç ðîäó ïîïà Èâàíà, øåñòîé ãîñóäàðü ïîñëå ïîïà Èâàíà. Ìåñòî ýòî òî ñàìîå, ÷òî ó íàñ çîâåòñÿ ñòðàíîþ Ãîã è Ìàãîã, à çäåñü Óí è Ìîãóë; â êàæäîé îáëàñòè ñâîé íàðîä, â ñòðàíå Óí æèâåò Ãîã, à â Ìîãóëå — òàòàðû.

Íà âîñòîê îòñþäà, ê Êàòàþ, ñåìü äíåé åäåøü ïî ãîðîäàì è çàìêàì; æèâóò òóò ìóñóëüìàíå, èäîëîïîêëîííèêè, à òàêæå õðèñòèàíå-íåñòîðèàíå. Íàðîä òîðãîâûé, çàíèìàåòñÿ ðåìåñëàìè, òêóò òóò çîëîòûå ñóêíà íàøèçè è íàê è ðàçíûå øåëêîâûå òêàíè; êàê ó íàñ åñòü ðàçíûå øåðñòÿíûå òêàíè, òàê è ó íèõ ðàçíûå çîëî÷åíûå ñóêíà è øåëêîâûå òêàíè. Íàðîä ïîäâëàñòåí âåëèêîìó õàíó."

Êîììåíòàðèè:
- Î öàðå Ãåîðãèè, ïîòîìêå ïîïà Èâàíà, êðîìå Ìàðêî Ïîëî ãîâîðèò ìèññèîíåð Ìîíòå-Êîðâèíî (â íà÷àëå XIV â.). Ó âîñòî÷íûõ ïèñàòåëåé èçâåñòèé îá ýòîé äèíàñòèè íåò.
- Êàê âèäíî, Ìàðêî Ïîëî ïûòàëñÿ íàéòè îáúÿñíåíèå äëÿ ëåãåíäàðíûõ áèáëåéñêèõ ïëåìåí, êîòîðûõ äðåâíèå àâòîðû ïîñåëÿëè íà êðàéíåì Âîñòîêå.

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ASTRACAN



Astracan
Hic magnus prouentus
calami aromatici.

Àíãëèéñêèé ïåðåâîä [M. van den Broecke]:
"Here you find great quantities of aromatic reeds".


MARE CASPIUM




TVRCHESTAN



TVRCHESTAN Regio
vnde cismontani 10. Tribuum socij ante
900 anos sunt accersiti a Persis contra Isma
elitae Mahumedis arma."

Àíãëèéñêèé ïåðåâîä:
"Turchestan. The area from which the 10 tribes as allies living on this side of the mountain range have been called 900 years ago by the Persians to fight the armies of Ismàål the Muslim."

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Ïîòîìêè êîëåí Èçðàèëåâûõ (Äàí è Íåôôàëèì)? :





Nepthalitaru horda

Nepthalitaru horda Nepthalitae abuna 10. Tribuum Israelis nomine
Neptali dicti sunt er post Dani:
tas qui in castigatione Aquilona:
ri Danmarchi dicti sunt, ob Rache
lis Balbah ius secundo in loco Hu
doru sive Iehudeorum sunt positi
et 476 sal anno contra Perosa
victores fuere, Euthalitas male
vocant ceteri.

Àíãëèéñêèé ïåðåâîä [Marcel van den Broecke]:
The Nephalites are named Neptali after one of the 10 tribes with a Hebrew name, and below the Danites, who by way of punishment were called the Danes of the dark North, and they were on account of the claims of Rachel Balbah placed to the side, in the area of the Hudores or Iehudeores; in the year 476 they were victorious in their battle against Perosa. Others call them incorrectly Euthalites.


Schyticum
prom:
Danorum
siue Danitarum
horda 1. deiectio siue
descensio aut expulsio.

Ïåðåâîä [Marcel van den Broecke]:
Scythian promontory of the Dani or Daniti, a tribe which has disappeared because it has been expelled or has left.

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È åù¸ Îðòåëèé.

Tartaria, 1601







Tartaria, 1602

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È åù¸ Îðòåëèé. Tartaria sive Magni Chami Imperivm, 1602.

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Ãåðàðä äå Æîäå, êàðòà Àçèè, 1578ã. :




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