Ôîðóìû ó Ëèðèêà

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"Alexandria Troas is huge... It is largely unexcavated..." - Alexandria Troas - ãîðîä îãðîìíûé...  áîëüøåé ÷àñòè ãîðîäà ðàñêîïêè íå ïðîâîäèëèñü...

Alexander Troas (ôîòî)

Ãîðîä ÷åêàíèë ñâîè ñîáñòâåííûå ìîíåòû ("ïàñóùàÿñÿ ëîøàäü - ñèìâîë íà ìîíåòàõ èç Troas")

Áèáëåéñêàÿ Òóðöèÿ - ôîòîãðàôèè Alexandria Troas

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Àíòîíèî Çàòòà, 1784 ãîä:

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Äåÿíèÿ àïîñòîëîâ, ãëàâà 16:

8 Ìèíîâàâøè æå Ìèñèþ, ñîøëè îíè â Òðîàäó.
9 È áûëî íî÷üþ âèäåíèå Ïàâëó: ïðåäñòàë íåêèé ìóæ Ìàêåäîíÿíèí, ïðîñÿ åãî è ãîâîðÿ: ïðèäè â Ìàêåäîíèþ è ïîìîãè íàì.
10 Ïîñëå ñåãî âèäåíèÿ, òîò÷àñ ìû ïîëîæèëè îòïðàâèòüñÿ â Ìàêåäîíèþ, çàêëþ÷àÿ, ÷òî ïðèçâàë íàñ Ãîñïîäü áëàãîâåñòâîâàòü òàì.
11 Èòàê, îòïðàâèâøèñü èç Òðîàäû, ìû ïðÿìî ïðèáûëè â Ñàìîôðàêèþ, à íà äðóãîé äåíü â Íåàïîëü...

King James Bible

8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.
9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.
10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.
11 Therefore loosing from Troas, we came with a straight course to Samothracia, and the next day to Neapolis...


Äåÿíèÿ àïîñòîëîâ, ãëàâà 20:

5 Îíè, ïîøåäøè âïåðåä, îæèäàëè íàñ â Òðîàäå.
6 À ìû ïîñëå äíåé îïðåñíî÷íûõ îòïëûëè èç Ôèëèïï è äíåé â ïÿòü ïðèáûëè ê íèì â Òðîàäó, ãäå ïðîáûëè ñåìü äíåé.

King James Bible

5 These going before tarried for us at Troas.
6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.


2-å ïîñëàíèå Êîðèíôÿíàì, ãëàâà 2

12 Ïðèøåä â Òðîàäó äëÿ áëàãîâåñòâîâàíèÿ î Õðèñòå, õîòÿ ìíå è îòâåðñòà áûëà äâåðü Ãîñïîäîì...

King James Bible

12 Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ's gospel, and a door was opened unto me of the Lord...


2-å ïîñëàíèå Òèìîôåþ, ãëàâà 4

13 Êîãäà ïîéäåøü, ïðèíåñè ôåëîíü, êîòîðûé ÿ îñòàâèë â Òðîàäå ó Êàðïà, è êíèãè, îñîáåííî êîæàíûå.

King James Bible

13 The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments.

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Ðîáåð äå Âîãîíäè, "Êàðòà ïóòåøåñòâèé Ãîñïîäà íàøåãî Èèñóñà Õðèñòà...", 1747, ôðàãìåíò:

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ÈÑÒÎ×ÍÈÊÈ:

I. Ãîìåð. "Èëèàäà" (ïåðåâîä Í. È. Ãíåäè÷à)

II. Ïîâåñòü î Òðîå

(Ñ ñàéòà Èñòîðèÿ Áåëàðóñè IX-XVIII âåêîâ. Ïåðâîèñòî÷íèêè. )

"Ñòàðîáåëîðóññêèé ïåðåâîä ïîâåñòè î Òðîå, êàê ñ÷èòàåòñÿ, âîñõîäèò ê áîëãàðñêîìó ïåðåâîäó ãðå÷åñêîé õðîíèêè Ìàíàññèè 1369 ãîäà. Áûë ñäåëàí, âîçìîæíî, åùå â 15 âåêå, ïîñêîëüêó óæå Ô.Ñêîðèíà â îäíîì èç ïðåäèñëîâèé ñâèäåòåëüñòâóåò î òîì, ÷òî ïîâåñòü èìåëà õîæäåíèå â Âåëèêîì êíÿæåñòâå Ëèòîâñêîì. Å.Ô.Êàðñêèé â "Áåëîðóñàõ" (ò.3, âûï.2, Ïã., 1921. Ñ.66-67) ñîîáùèë, ÷òî äðåâíåéøèì èçâåñòíûì íà òî âðåìÿ ñïèñêîì äàííîãî ïåðåâîäà ÿâëÿåòñÿ ðóêîïèñü íà÷àëà 17 âåêà â ÃÏÁ - F.XVII ¹5, ë.67. Áåç çàãëàâèÿ.

Ïîëíîñòüþ ïîâåñòü ïî ðóêîïèñè Ëåíèíãðàäñêîé ïóáë. áèáëèîòåêè èì. Ì.Å.Ñàëòûêîâà-Ùåäðèíà îïóáëèêîâàë À.Ô.Êîðøóíîâ (ÊîðøóíࢠÀ.Ô. Õðýñòàìàòûÿ ïà ñòàðàæûòíàé áåëàðóñêàé ë³òàðàòóðû. Ìí., 1959. Ñ.446-454)".

Òåêñò èç ýòîãî èçäàíèÿ â ôîðìàòå DJVU:

ÀÏÎÂÅÑÖÜ ÎÁ ÒÐÎI

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/tr01.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/tr02.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/tr03.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/tr04.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/tr05.djvu


III. "Çàñëóæèâàþò âíèìàíèÿ äâà òåêñòà Òðîÿíñêîé ïîâåñòè íà öåðêîâíîñëàâÿíñêîì ÿçûêå, êîòîðûå íàïå÷àòàë À.Í.Âåñåëîâñêèé (Âåñåëîâñêèé À.Í. Èç èñòîðèè ðîìàíà è ïîâåñòè. Âûï. 2. Ñëàâÿíî-ðîìàíñêèé îòäåë. // Ñáîðíèê îòäåëåíèÿ ðóññêîãî ÿçûêà è ñëîâåñíîñòè Èìïåðàòîðñêîé Àêàäåìèè íàóê. Ò.44. ¹3. ÑÏá., 1888. Ñ.101-121). Ïîâåñòü ïî Íîâãîðîäñêî-Ñîôèéñêîìó ñïèñêó 16 âåêà Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãñêîé Äóõîâíîé àêàäåìèè, ¹ 1497, ðàçìåùåíà â ðóêîïèñè "çà õðîíèêîé Ìàíàññèè", îïèñàíà À.Ïîïîâûì â "Îáçîðå õðîíîãðàôîâ" (I, 125) (Âåñåëîâñêèé, ñ.28, 29, ïðèì. 6). Êàê íå òðóäíî óáåäèòüñÿ, ñòàðîáåëîðóññêèé òåêñò F.XVII, ¹ 5 ÿâëÿåòñÿ çíà÷èòåëüíî ñîêðàùåííîé âåðñèåé ýòîé ðåäàêöèè. Ëàêóíû À.Í.Âåñåëîâñêèé âîñïîëíÿåò ïî èçä. Ìèêëîøè÷à: Fr.Miklošič. Trojanska priča bugarski i latinski (Starine, III). Âòîðîé òåêñò, áîëåå êîðîòêèé, îí íàïå÷àòàë ïî ðóêîïèñè Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãñêîé Äóõîâíîé àêàäåìèè, ¹ 126."

Òåêñòû â ôîðìàòå DJVU:

I
http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_101.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_102.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_103.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_104.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_105.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_106.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_107.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_108.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_109.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_110.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_111.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_112.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_113.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_114.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_115.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_116.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_117.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_118.djvu


II

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_119.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_120.djvu

http://starbel.narod.ru/siem/troj_121.djvu


(Ñ ñàéòà Èñòîðèÿ Áåëàðóñè IX-XVIII âåêîâ. Ïåðâîèñòî÷íèêè. )


IV. Ìèõàëîí Ëèòâèí. "Î íðàâàõ òàòàð, ëèòîâöåâ è ìîñêâèòÿí"

Ôðàãìåíò äåâÿòûé:

"Òàì îí âïàäàåò â ìîðå, ðàçäåëåííûé íà äâåíàäöàòü ðóêàâîâ. Âñå âìåñòå îíè íàçûâàþòñÿ Ëèìàí (Linien), [à îäèí èç íèõ] áëèç óñòüÿ Äíåñòðà (Dnestri) èìååò íàçâàíèå Âèäîâî (Vidovo), ïî èìåíè ïîýòà Îâèäèÿ, [òàê êàê] ïîëàãàþò, ÷òî îí æèë â èçãíàíèè â ýòîé ÷àñòè Ïîíòà. Òàê ñ÷èòàåòñÿ, ÷òî è Èëèîí (Ilium), èëè Òðîÿ (Troiam), íåêîãäà íàõîäèëèñü íà êèåâñêîé òåððèòîðèè (territorio Kioviensi), â ïëîäîðîäíåéøèõ ñòåïÿõ è æèâîïèñíåéøèõ ëåñàõ. Çäåñü ìîæíî âèäåòü ïàìÿòíèêè, îò êîòîðûõ íûíå ñîõðàíèëèñü ðàçâàëèíû, ïîäçåìåëüÿ, ãðîòû, ìðàìîðíûå ïëèòû è îñòàòêè ìîùíûõ ñòåí. Ýòî äàâíî ïîêèíóòîå, íî âåñüìà óäîáíîå äëÿ îáèòàíèÿ ìåñòî íàçûâàåòñÿ íûíå Òîðãîâèöà (Torgovitza)."


V. "Òðîÿíñêèå ñêàçàíèÿ. Ñðåäíåâåêîâûå ðûöàðñêèå ðîìàíû î Òðîÿíñêîé âîéíå ïî ðóññêèì ðóêîïèñÿì XVI-XVII âåêîâ", Ë., "Íàóêà", 1972

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Åñòü òàêàÿ èíòåðåñíàÿ êíèãà, áûëè èçäàíèÿ 1615, 1621, 1632 ãîäà è ðåïðèíò 1973 ãîäà
(îïèñàíèå êíèãè ñì.
http: //alpha.lib.uwo.ca:5701/search/asandys/asandys/
1,22,148,B/exact&FF=asandys+george+1578+1644&49,62 )
SANDYS, George, 1578-1644 A Relation of a Iourney begun An: Dom: 1610. Foure Bookes. Containing a description of the Turkish Empire, of Egypt, of the Holy Land, of the Remote parts of Italy, and Ilands adioyning
×åì èíòåðåñíà êíèãà, â 1610 – 12 ãîäàõ Ñàíäèñ îáúåõàë âñå ñðåäèçåìíîìîðüå íà÷àë ñ Âåíåöèè ïîáûâàë â Êîíñòàíòèíîïîëå çàòåì â Òðîå (æèâîé èëè íåò?) ñìîòðè êàðòó. http://www.folger.edu/institute/jamestown/c_kupperman.htm



Áûë â Àëåêñàíäðèè, äîøåë äî ïèðàìèä ñì. ðèñóíîê ãîâîðÿò èç åãî êíèãè,
http://www.sis.gov.eg/sphinx/html/sphnx002.htm

çàòåì äîøåë äî Èåðóñàëèìà (ïëàí ñì. http://jnul.huji.ac.il/dl/maps/jer/images/jer171/Jer171_b.jpg )
È íà îáðàòíîì ïóòè áûë â Íåàïîëå è ãîâîðÿò äàë îïèñàíèå Âåçóâèÿ äî êàòàñòðîôû 1631 ãîäà.
È åùå ñòðàííûå î÷åðòàíèÿ Êðèòà, è ñ Êèïðîì - òàêîå âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷òî îí ñâÿçàí ñ Ñèðèåé? Íàéäòè áû êíèãó?

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Luigi Mayer - Eski Estamboul (1810)
[Cities & towns - Romania]



ÊÐÓÏÍÅÅ

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Ãîíîðèé Àâãóñòîäîíñêèé
"Îá îáðàçå ìèðà"

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Ilios. The city and country of the Trojans

The results of researches and discoveries on the site of Troy and through the Troad in the years 1871-72-73-78-79; including an autobiography of the author.
By Dr. Henry Schliemann...

Publisher: New York, Harper & Brothers, 1881.